Three Mormons and I

Part 12

One remarkable belief was that they held that God the Father had a body. This is, of course, another example of the impossibility that the one whom they call God the Father is True God. Indeed, if God has a body, then he cannot be in all places. For every body is in a place. If my body is not his, there are two places. Therefore, he cannot be in all places.

And since there are many bodies – yours and mine and Pluto’s and that of Mars, etc. – God the Father must be distant from many places. He must not be omnipresent.

But the True God is omnipresent.

So I asked them about these things.

First, about the body. Every body has a limit; thus, whatever is bodily is necessarily limited. They countered, “His body is perfect.” To which I responded, “What do you mean? If I have perfect health that is wonderful for me, who am only a man. But ‘having a body’ necessarily means I am im-perfect in the sense of lacking many pure perfections. I must have parts and thus am not simple and self-identical. I am in time and change. Etc.” They had no response but repeated the bit about the Father’s body being “perfect”.

Second, I asked about God’s omnipresence. The Father cannot be in all places, because his perfect body constricts him to some place. They said that God the Father is present in all places through his Holy Spirit. Since the Spirit is spirit, he is not restricted by a body. Thus, he can be in all places.

So, I asked whether God the Father depends on his Holy Spirit in order to be in all places. They said, “Yes.”

So, I said, the ultimate person of the Godhead (in this universe) is in fact dependent? He is almighty only through the help of another? They said, “Yes.”

Well, if he is dependent, I said, he cannot really be God. He needs his vice-regent in order to effect some things which he could not otherwise effect: Namely, being in all places. Therefore, neither can he truly be a creator ex nihilo, as they had proposed.

They had no response.